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Forum: Reading and Writing 18th June 2004, 09:03 AM
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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
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Posted By bathrobe
You are implying that it doesn't matter if words...
You are implying that it doesn't matter if words like these kinda 'fall through the cracks'. In
terms of a writing system, it does matter, and it is exactly the problem that is being addressed
by...
Forum: Reading and Writing 17th June 2004, 09:13 PM
Replies: 473
Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
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Posted By bathrobe
This is all getting rather ridiculous. We have...
This is all getting rather ridiculous. We have got to the point where Mr Sunyata is presuming to
tell us that certain characters aren't worth remembering because they aren't worth writing! Don't
you...
Forum: Reading and Writing 17th June 2004, 07:43 AM
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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
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Posted By bathrobe
Actually, 放屁 is an extremely useful expression in...
Actually, 放屁 is an extremely useful expression in Chinese.
There is a lot of vocab that you don't encounter if you weren't brought up in China. I'm thinking
especially of those little words and...
Forum: Reading and Writing 16th June 2004, 03:34 PM
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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
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Posted By bathrobe
No need to go to that extreme! :D All we need...
No need to go to that extreme! :D
All we need is for Sunyata to come out of denial as to whether this poor, innocuous,
well-picked-over example is a part of 'basic vocab' in Chinese and admit that...
Forum: Reading and Writing 16th June 2004, 11:30 AM
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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
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Posted By bathrobe
Sunyata wrote: Maybe because it's difficult to...
Sunyata wrote:
Maybe because it's difficult to write? :mrgreen:
Sunyata earlier wrote:
The 'so what?' appears to sum up your thinking on this thread. You don't appear to have any
logical...
Forum: Reading and Writing 16th June 2004, 09:43 AM
Replies: 473
Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
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Posted By bathrobe
I don't see what you're trying to achieve here....
I don't see what you're trying to achieve here. 打喷嚏 is definitely pretty basic in Chinese
and used commonly enough, at least in speech. I would suggest that most Chinese learn 打喷嚏
well before they...
Forum: Reading and Writing 16th June 2004, 09:03 AM
Replies: 473
Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
Views: 45,323
Posted By bathrobe
I agree. Reading speed is an issue according to...
I agree.
Reading speed is an issue according to Chinese native-speakers on this thread (characters are
faster to scan and read).
The ability to write concisely: I know that theoretically speaking...
Forum: Reading and Writing 16th June 2004, 01:54 AM
Replies: 473
Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
Views: 45,323
Posted By bathrobe
Frankly, I think he has proved it within his own...
Frankly, I think he has proved it within his own terms of reference. Learning characters is harder
than learning a phonetic script. As you've admitted yourself, you could learn to read Russian in
a...
Forum: Reading and Writing 15th June 2004, 04:58 PM
Replies: 473
Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
Views: 45,323
Posted By bathrobe
For me, yes, but I'm addicted to characters. I...
For me, yes, but I'm addicted to characters. I quite understand what you are talking about. How
could 'da4' mean 'large' without the character 大 to show what it actually means?
Unfortunately,...
Forum: Reading and Writing 15th June 2004, 04:15 PM
Replies: 473
Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
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Posted By bathrobe
39degN wrote: Yes, but all you have to do is...
39degN wrote:
Yes, but all you have to do is learn the meaning of the words; you don't have to learn the meaning
and a new character to write them!
Yes, once you have learnt Chinese characters they...
Forum: Reading and Writing 15th June 2004, 03:52 PM
Replies: 473
Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
Views: 45,323
Posted By bathrobe
39degN said: Somewhat disagree. Perhaps we have...
39degN said:
Somewhat disagree.
Perhaps we have a fundamental philosophical disagreement here, but the 'writing system' should
conceptually be distinguished from the 'language'. English has tense,...
Forum: Reading and Writing 15th June 2004, 10:56 AM
Replies: 473
Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
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Posted By bathrobe
I personally like the idea that words should be...
I personally like the idea that words should be better spelled out in Chinese writing. Chinese
generally view their language in terms of 'characters/morphemes', which, for better or for worse,
has a...
Forum: Reading and Writing 14th June 2004, 08:23 AM
Replies: 473
Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
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Posted By bathrobe
I think the point that Beijingslacker is making...
I think the point that Beijingslacker is making is that dmoser's examples are quite selective and
do not properly represent the total picture for either English or Chinese.
It is interesting that a...
Forum: Reading and Writing 12th June 2004, 08:45 AM
Replies: 473
Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
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Posted By bathrobe
Going back to sm_sung's tongue-twister, I must...
Going back to sm_sung's tongue-twister, I must say that I was only partly able to make sense of
the pinyin. When I saw the character version it was as though the room was suddenly flooded with...
Forum: Reading and Writing 11th June 2004, 07:56 PM
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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese
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Posted By bathrobe
Sunyata, I find the statement 'I don't see why it...
Sunyata, I find the statement 'I don't see why it should be the foreigners' business to even
discuss it' hard to uphold. It would mean that no person (including yourself) would be able to
make any...
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