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wannabeafreak -



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An RTHK programme about immigrants in HK. With non-Chinese people speaking Cantonese and Mandarin
(謝肅方/Stephen Selby, who was not born locally, is good).

Link -> http://www.rthk.org.hk/asx/rthk/tv/h...7/20070304.asx

I didn't see Stephen Selby at all in that video. Is there another one?



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skylee -

The programme lasts for 20+ minutes. He is in the second half. I think you just have to wait or
move fast forward. His part is from 00:59 to 02:10 in the second half.










wannabeafreak -



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The programme lasts for 20+ minutes. He is in the second half. I think you just have to wait or
move fast forward. His part is from 00:59 to 02:10 in the second half.

Thanks. Great video.










Quest -

Wannabeafreak, you didn't post this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=77o0q3cgkg4

where Sharon Balcombe speaks Mandarin, English and Cantonese. Her Cantonese is the best. Her
Mandarin and English have Cantonese accent.










wannabeafreak -



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Wannabeafreak, you didn't post this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=77o0q3cgkg4

where Sharon Balcombe speaks Mandarin, English and Cantonese. Her Cantonese is the best. Her
Mandarin and English have Cantonese accent.

Very unique person, I was the guy who uploaded this video to Youtube. I wonder if there would be
others in Hong Kong who are like her.










Quest -

Did you go to the service/gathering yourself, or did you get the video from somewhere?










wannabeafreak -



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Did you go to the service/gathering yourself, or did you get the video from somewhere?

For many of the videos I did searches on RTHK looking for foreigners who speak Cantonese, and
simply did a bit of video editing, Sharon's I got from a few church websites and waited until I
saw her speak English and Mandarin.

I have many videos on Stephan Selby speaking Mandarin from CCTV but haven't uploaded them yet.










Quest -

咁多個我始終最欣賞Sharon
Balcombe，佢唔單止冇accent冇懶音，口才仲好好，係一個地地道道嘅香港人。










zozzen -

I had talked to 謝肅方 on the phone when he worked in the Department of Intellectual Property,
but throughout the conversation I just couldn't recognize he's a non-chinese until he gave me his
English name for reference.










Woodpecker -

I don't understand why there is all this fuss about accents. Of course the foreigners have
accents! Everyone does, even the natives. My dad (from New Zealand) has a different accent to me
(English) even though we speak the same language. Does this mean he is any less fluent in English?
Of course not! Heck, England has a wide variety of accents anyway - a person from Surrey has a
different accent from someone in Devon, and I've noticed at least 3 different ones in London alone
(never mind the more general Northern and Southern accents). Surely as long as the meaning is
there and the tones and pronunciation are clear and correct, that is all that matters?

The primary function of language is communication, not producing a perfect imitation of how
another person speaks. Of course, I don't mean that people shouldn't work on getting the accent
right; everyone wants to sound natural. It's just that when it comes to judging someone's ability
at speaking, I don't think it should be so much of an issue. A perfect accent accompanying an
unintelligible sentence is no use at all, but when a person produces a perfect sentence with a
foreign accent, that is fine: the meaning is clear and they have achieved their main objective.

Incidentally, when I started learning Cantonese, I found a bit of Chinese accent ended up in my
voice just by virtue of the tonal system and the way the words are pronounced. Of course I still
speak with a foreign accent since I don't know enough to hold a proper conversation, but such is
life.

Sorry about the annoyed tone in my post: I find this issue really irksome!












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